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(cont) HOW ARE YOU FEELING NOW RON AND DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THIS ALL UNDER CONTROL?
HORNADAY: “I when I came here with Dale Earnhardt, Inc. in ’94 and ’95, I weighed 200-205 pounds and that is where I sit right now. My belly might show it. I feel fine. I felt fine before. I started losing weight and I got the shakes real bad. I felt fine then, other than just losing weight and getting the shakes. A little tiredness and stuff like that, but I mean, heck I am 50, I am going to be tired now, so it don’t matter.”

JIM, IS THERE ANY NASCAR INVOLVEMENT WITH WHAT RON DID OR IS IT OVER AND DONE WITH?
HUNTER: “It is over and done with, he is cleared to race. We don’t see where Ron did anything wrong. Our substance policy is based on reasonable suspicion. If you talk to physicians, which I would encourage you to do, on a case-by-case basis, depending upon on what a person’s condition is, then their prescriptions with all sorts of substances that are used for treatment, in some cases, those are acceptable. In Ron’s case, it was back in ’04, ’05, it is over.”

IS IT CORRECT THAT THE TESTOSTRONE CREAM IN QUESTION WAS NOT ADDED TO THE LIST OF NASCAR SUBSTANCES UNTIL THIS SEASON?
HUNTER: “When you really analyze our policy, and by-the-way, within the next few weeks we are going to announce what we are doing in making some improvements to our policy. It doesn’t necessarily make a substance illegal. There are some conditions under which, that is why I used the phrase, talk to physicians, there are certain conditions where testosterone might be prescribed. So I would hesitate to blanket say a substance is totally banned. There are certain substances that are banned. Until we announce our new policy, I don’t think I want to just lay a blanket over certain substances.”

YOUR COMMENTS ON IF THIS PERSON HAD KNOW YOU AS MOST OF US KNOW YOU WOULD NEVER TAKE SOMETHING OR THINK OF SOMETHING AS PERFORMANCE ENHANCING TO BEGIN WITH:
HORNADAY: “I appreciate that. I don’t take aspirin. A lot of people in here know that I do drink beer, I love my beer, but I don’t drink beer the night before a race and I don’t drink on the race track. You guys know I have nothing ever to hide.

“When this gentleman came in to do this story, I thought it was the Southwest Tour days and stuff. He took me out back and wanted to see the beautiful lake and talk to me about it. He brought it up and asked if I have done steroids. I said “Yea”. For one, you don’t have to take me out back, my family knows what I do, I have nothing to hide, so, am I ashamed? No. I would do it today, but from 2004-2008 there are different laws or whatever you want to call. I saw a nurse, I showed Kevin and DeLana. I wasn’t even upset when this guy was talking to me about it. I just had to call Kevin and DeLana and tell them this guy is going to write a story. I have got all the documents that Kevin has in his hand right there and showed NASCAR. I have nothing to hide.”
HARVICK: “For us, we have all the paperwork, we have all the blood work, everything that he went through to get the cream and the diagnosis of why it was prescribed and why it all came this way for him.

“Bob (Margolis), you can relate to this as good as anybody. We have seen it a lot with DeLana’s father. There is just a lot of different health reasons that you would have to use steroids for. Synthroid is actually a form of steroids that is prescribed to him now to take care of thyroid. If he doesn’t take that, he pretty much dies.

“It is unfortunate the way that the interview was obtained through our PR department and through the things that had all went down. That part is unfortunate. But, the people who know who he is and what he is about. Sure, there is probably a different route to go about it today. But, he it was right on the verge of the HIPA laws and the things that come with, of really really crossing the line. That, to me, is unfortunate for a lot of you people in this room that have to deal with these types of people on your side.”

JIM, IS HGH, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN REALLY TEST FOR IT, IF YOU FIND OUT SOMEONE IS USING IT, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IN CERTAIN INSTANCES…..
HUNTER: “I am not going to speculate.”
HARVICK: “Hold on here, the HGH side of this, we are not going to drag Lindy (Hornaday) in to this. We have already violated enough personal records. The HGH part of it, we are not dragging Lindy Hornaday in to this as well. We are not going to violate that side of personal records. These are personal health issues and Ron has been kind enough to show NASCAR and show us his personal health issues. On the HGH side, we aren’t getting in that.”
HORNADAY: “I did show them Lindy’s too.”

KEVIN, DID YOU KNOW WHAT RON WAS TAKING IS NOW ON NASCAR’S LIST?
HARVICK: “Until this situation came about, we didn’t know that Ron had sought this form of medical attention. Once we knew all the details of it and we knew he health issues and we know we have fixed them since then.”

JIM, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT EVERY DRIVER IN NASCAR’S TOP-THREE SERIES HAS TO GO THROUGH A PHYSICAL BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RACE AT THE START OF THE YEAR AND SHOULD THIS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT AT THAT TIME?
HUNTER: “Going back to then and this is now, I don’t know that there is anything in the physical that would have indicated. Like I said, there are certain prescriptions for things that are not in violation of the policy. I don’t want to speculate on what might have been. What we hope to do with our new policy is have a much better policy. In that regard, the Harvicks have worked very closely in developing a policy of their own for KHI, as have other team owners. I think this is an individual case where a person’s health was the central issue.”

RON, YOU WERE SO FORWARD WITH YOUR FAMILY, WERE YOU AS FORWARD WITH NASCAR IN 2005-2005?
HORNADAY: “The nurses had seen me; they questioned me at the race track. I told them I had seen doctors and stuff like that. By putting it down, no, I didn’t do that because, if you checked me, my levels were so low that probably put me back to standard so I don’t know.”
HARVICK: “He didn’t know the diagnosis at the time, it was a moving target.”

CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US HOW STUBBORN RON WAS WHEN YOU TRIED TO DRAG HIM TO THE DOCTOR?
HARVICK: “For me it is different. I just look at it as Ron. I have known Ron, I say 16, he says younger. It all depends upon who you talk to as far as when I started racing late model stuff. Ron was struggling to find out exactly what was wrong with his health and obviously, he had the appendix problem. I had watched him for the first two weeks of the season, lay in the infield care center and take IVs before the race. For me it was a no-brainer. Ron is one of my best friends, for me it was simple. I called Carelli and told him to take him to Wake Forest. He was a little bit stubborn about it with Carelli. I actually wasn’t there, but we had a plan to get him to the hospital, so I didn’t see that stubbornness, and get it figured out.”
HORNADAY: “Yea, you hid from me.”

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON BEING A DRIVER AND THE MINDSET THAT YOU CAN’T BE SICK?
HORNADAY: “When I first started driving for Dale (Earnhardt), I couldn’t ride a Harley, I couldn’t water ski, I couldn’t roller skate. With Kevin, I told him, if I go out there and water ski and break my toe, I ain’t going to tell ya. I break my leg, I ain’t going to tell you either. I want to race. We do stupid things, skate boarding and all that stuff.
HARVICK: “I would like to see that. I would really enjoy that.”
HUNTER: “I would too. Skate Boarding?”
HORNADAY: “It is my office behind that steering wheel. I was back in right after I had my appendix out. You love sitting in that truck; you love racing. I don’t care if it is a car or truck, it is fun. I think it is more mental; when I was younger it was more physical. But now it is more mental and having that equipment to drive.”

HARVICK: “And things have changed since a lot of the things he is talking about and you are talking about, Ray (Dunlap) as far as the way NASCAR goes. The nurses are around every week. They know when you have been in an accident. They knew what things are going on. It is just like the Synthroid for Ron, it is on his physical forms. They know it is a moving target with his dosage and the way it works.

“Back when I broke my sternum in 2005 at Daytona, I raced with it in the Nationwide races and in the Cup races for weeks. I had to have help getting in and out of the car, but they knew there was nothing else they could do; obviously you can’t take pain medicine or anything like that. They know all that is going on and especially, not only this situation, but there are a lot of instances in the garage where there is not enough credit for the communication between the teams and the drivers. A lot of times it is a personal issue that you guys never hear about, they know about most of it. Sometimes they do, but sometimes they don’t, but more times than not, they know what is going on. Our world is public, but sometimes the health issues have to stay private.”

DOES THIS REAL-WORLD SITUATION HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE NEW DRUG POLICY?
HUNTER: “I think any time you say certain words, it raises the level of interest. But I don’t think the particular issue, to us; this is a health issue of whether a person is sick or ill and trying to find a way to fix it. One of the things about our new policy, I should say revised policy, is that we have sought and have spoken to just about every car owner, just about every driver so we have gotten a tremendous amount of input from them so that we put a better policy in place for today’s world. When we announce that I think it will be.”